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Humans are way overpowered how can they dodge a tackle meanwhile the hunter can't Dodge a drop kick? this is wack, they're only humans, it's not as though they're superheroes, hopefully techland will look at this and use their brain a little bit, Mutated Zombie higher reflexes and senses. You can be right in the person's face with the hunter go to tackle and it still pulls you back that way it gives them enough time to dodge the tackle what kind of nonsense is that? As I said the humans are way overpowered in this game and it could be 4 verse 1 what the hell is that? And when you use the hunters abilities cooldown is way slow. They damn near crippled the hunter meanwhile people can glitch potions so they have an infinite number. It Just doesn't make sense, again I go back to their only human it's not as though they're superheroes what the hell's going on techland. 

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On 5/24/2018 at 10:10 PM, Kornchits said:

Not a PC player, im a console player instant tackle Bs for them to still be able to dodge. Humans are humans not super heroes. Not balanced at all. 

Instant tackle works on console as well. It is fairly balanced, still needs work, yes. But it is fine where it sits right now. 

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1 hour ago, Renfur said:

Instant tackle works on console as well. It is fairly balanced, still needs work, yes. But it is fine where it sits right now. 

Not balanced if humans can Dodge the night Hunters should be able to as well.

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On 5/31/2018 at 9:43 AM, Renfur said:

Instant tackle works on console as well. It is fairly balanced, still needs work, yes. But it is fine where it sits right now. 

Dude who are you to decide whether the mode is balanced at this moment? The devs can't even comprehend. This guy is totally correct and you are just shutting him down.

Instant tackle is very difficult to do with a controller and using that glitch as justification for the existence of another is just ridiculous.

Kornchits you are correct, your hunches will be found true and the people here are just trying to buff the survivor's side. Leave this place and never return!

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1 hour ago, nickmad92 said:

Dude who are you to decide whether the mode is balanced at this moment? The devs can't even comprehend. This guy is totally correct and you are just shutting him down.

Instant tackle is very difficult to do with a controller and using that glitch as justification for the existence of another is just ridiculous.

Kornchits you are correct, your hunches will be found true and the people here are just trying to buff the survivor's side. Leave this place and never return!

Actually... As much as I dislike Renfur he is correct on this. NH is a very situational fighter you cannot approach even each fight the same as positionally it will always be different. Renfur is one of the top end tendril sprinters in Dying Light so as far as actually having someone who is experienced in the matter telling you YOU ARE WRONG. He definitely does have the room to say so.

NH can be played a multitude of ways to get around the issues you are talking about. If you are only fighting him that way then go fight against a NH that gives you trouble and see what they are doing differently. Otherwise coming here and pointlessly whining/insulting members who have valid points is not only pointless it's just plain stupid.

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4 hours ago, Drakorus said:

Actually... As much as I dislike Renfur he is correct on this. NH is a very situational fighter you cannot approach even each fight the same as positionally it will always be different. Renfur is one of the top end tendril sprinters in Dying Light so as far as actually having someone who is experienced in the matter telling you YOU ARE WRONG. He definitely does have the room to say so.

NH can be played a multitude of ways to get around the issues you are talking about. If you are only fighting him that way then go fight against a NH that gives you trouble and see what they are doing differently. Otherwise coming here and pointlessly whining/insulting members who have valid points is not only pointless it's just plain stupid.

We all have the right to our own opinion in this, to say that renfur is a hundred percent right is BS, he's not the only one with experience in the game, that being said we all have a right to our own opinion as well, it's not nearly as balanced as it should be ,humans are only humans not superheroes. Allowing two-night Hunters to attack a group of four Hunters would be a great addition. The night Hunters should be able to dodge a drop kick, or counter. Same as I said before you can't drop kick someone from 2 feet away that is straight b*******. And I've seen it done. Test it yourself if you don't believe it, you can be in someone's face do a tackle and it still draws the Night Hunter back to give them a chance to do a Dodge. If I'm that close in your face you don't have time to dodge. I haven't even said anything about how they skip around on the ground somehow magically, show me some humans that can actually do that ,side jump side jump side jump, if the Night Hunter has to go against superheroes at least try to make some sense of it. The old witch blessed you as she squeezed the testicles of the goat. FYI for everyone we all make mistakes on spelling at least go back and try to correct it and read your sentence, paragraph back to yourself to make sure it makes sense. And Drak many people are experienced with the game, top end tendril sprinters, AKA jumping in the air and holding the tendril grab button so it pulls you across the map. That's two buttons. If you're going to try and inflate someone's ego, do a better job.

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3 hours ago, Kornchits said:

We all have the right to our own opinion in this, to say that renfur is a hundred percent right is BS, he's not the only one with experience in the game, that being said we all have a right to our own opinion as well, it's not nearly as balanced as it should be ,humans are only humans not superheroes. Allowing two-night Hunters to attack a group of four Hunters would be a great addition. The night Hunters should be able to dodge a drop kick, or counter. Same as I said before you can't drop kick someone from 2 feet away that is straight b*******. And I've seen it done. Test it yourself if you don't believe it, you can be in someone's face do a tackle and it still draws the Night Hunter back to give them a chance to do a Dodge. If I'm that close in your face you don't have time to dodge. I haven't even said anything about how they skip around on the ground somehow magically, show me some humans that can actually do that ,side jump side jump side jump, if the Night Hunter has to go against superheroes at least try to make some sense of it. The old witch blessed you as she squeezed the testicles of the goat. FYI for everyone we all make mistakes on spelling at least go back and try to correct it and read your sentence, paragraph back to yourself to make sure it makes sense. And Drak many people are experienced with the game, top end tendril sprinters, AKA jumping in the air and holding the tendril grab button so it pulls you across the map. That's two buttons. If you're going to try and inflate someone's ego, do a better job.

I would advise trying to play other Asyms if you are not used to 4v1 fights. It's quite easy.

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56 minutes ago, Drakorus said:

I would advise trying to play other Asyms if you are not used to 4v1 fights. It's quite easy.

I would advise you to stop wanting credit for your minor Scholastic achievements against noobs, if you're saying going against four players and its always easy, not everyone has a maxed out night hunter, you must be facing nothing but noobs or doing something you shouldn't be. How about trying to give actual advice, instead of spewing nonsense. Every game needs some work, to say otherwise is Ludacris.

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8 minutes ago, Kornchits said:

I would advise you to stop wanting credit for your minor Scholastic achievements against noobs, if you're saying going against four players and its always easy, not everyone has a maxed out night hunter, you must be facing nothing but noobs or doing something you shouldn't be. How about trying to give actual advice, instead of spewing nonsense. Every game needs some work, to say otherwise is Ludacris.

I've fought NWG who is one of the top groups around here and I lost by 1 life at the end of it. You just suck :) There's plenty of information around, rather than bashing people who are experienced in the game because YOU are not having a good time; asking specific questions, learning from your mistakes. That would actually be conductive instead of coming to a forum to chupacabra.

Furthermore XD if you don't have a fully built NH you have ABSOLUTELY NO ROOM TO COMPLAIN. Get your full toolkit, learn to use it effectively then come back and say you're having the exact same amount of trouble.

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It's funny hearing it from the one that starts bashing people complaining about being bashed, well that was a quick response, don't like when you get put on the spot, no one said I wasn't having a good time, I enjoy the game probably a lot more than you do if you even play anymore. Yeah and the bottom bit asking specific questions, learning from your mistakes definitely some things you should pride yourself by working on those aspects, you could be conducting yourself instead of coming to a forum continuing this rant and no advice Trend that you seem to be on. Troll

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15 minutes ago, Kornchits said:

It's funny hearing it from the one that starts bashing people complaining about being bashed, well that was a quick response, don't like when you get put on the spot, no one said I wasn't having a good time, I enjoy the game probably a lot more than you do if you even play anymore. Yeah and the bottom bit asking specific questions, learning from your mistakes definitely some things you should pride yourself by working on those aspects, you could be conducting yourself instead of coming to a forum continuing this rant and no advice Trend that you seem to be on. Troll

I play everyday, I run a dying light pvp community that is active and we're actively building pvp maps to further enjoy the game mode :P  If you are not enjoying yourself you are welcome to leave. Bashing me is a bit sad. But by all means keep whining about absolutely nothing man.

I love how you try to turn this on me for standing up for Renfur but of course we all know you have to be the most skilled one here ;)

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Why are you still talking, holy chupacabra. Do the forum a favor and stop responding, concentrate on your PvP maps, you seem to like to volunteer information about yourself every chance you get, please don't respond, unless you have actual advice on how the dev team might actually make the game a bit more realistic. Humans are humans not superheroes. Night Hunters mutated zombie with superhuman strength and reflexes. Hmm

36 minutes ago, Drakorus said:

I've fought NWG who is one of the top groups around here and I lost by 1 life at the end of it. You just suck :) There's plenty of information around, rather than bashing people who are experienced in the game because YOU are not having a good time; asking specific questions, learning from your mistakes. That would actually be conductive instead of coming to a forum to chupacabra.

Furthermore XD if you don't have a fully built NH you have ABSOLUTELY NO ROOM TO COMPLAIN. Get your full toolkit, learn to use it effectively then come back and say you're having the exact same amount of trouble.

Why are you still talking, holy chupacabra. Do the forum a favor and stop responding, concentrate on your PvP maps, you seem to like to volunteer information about yourself every chance you get, please don't respond, unless you have actual advice on how the dev team might actually make the game a bit more realistic. Humans are humans not superheroes. Night Hunters mutated zombie with superhuman strength and reflexes. 

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7 minutes ago, Kornchits said:

Why are you still talking, holy chupacabra. Do the forum a favor and stop responding, concentrate on your PvP maps, you seem to like to volunteer information about yourself every chance you get, please don't respond, unless you have actual advice on how the dev team might actually make the game a bit more realistic. Humans are humans not superheroes. Night Hunters mutated zombie with superhuman strength and reflexes. Hmm

Why are you still talking, holy chupacabra. Do the forum a favor and stop responding, concentrate on your PvP maps, you seem to like to volunteer information about yourself every chance you get, please don't respond, unless you have actual advice on how the dev team might actually make the game a bit more realistic. Humans are humans not superheroes. Night Hunters mutated zombie with superhuman strength and reflexes. 

Lawl, nah I would rather not let a crappy person have the last word :) you simply come here to troll the forums and bash anyone who disagrees with you whining about the current balance of NH/Runner, you don't have your full toolkit so you aren't even able to play properly and yet you act like you are the bastion of knowledge for this game. Get over yourself.

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Yeah you're definitely a troll and I didn't say I didn't have a full tool kit, I said not everyone has a fully mutated night hunter, you are assuming the only one here whining and complaining is you because you are a troll and you're still on my forum, try not to be a piece of s*** your whole life, and by your logic you have to have all skills to even be able to play apparently. Maybe you should restart your night Hunter and start from the bottom again. As you have stated on here it's quite easy to go again 4 verse 1. If you think that it's balanced your a moron. You started replying to this post with a biased point of view. You complain about being bashed yet you're bashing other people. I simply stated my opinion that humans are way overpowered and they still are, Try not to be a hypocrite your whole life. Grow up little girl.

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10 hours ago, Drakorus said:

Actually... As much as I dislike Renfur he is correct on this. NH is a very situational fighter you cannot approach even each fight the same as positionally it will always be different. Renfur is one of the top end tendril sprinters in Dying Light so as far as actually having someone who is experienced in the matter telling you YOU ARE WRONG. He definitely does have the room to say so.

NH can be played a multitude of ways to get around the issues you are talking about. If you are only fighting him that way then go fight against a NH that gives you trouble and see what they are doing differently. Otherwise coming here and pointlessly whining/insulting members who have valid points is not only pointless it's just plain stupid.

If you don't have actual advice don't bother.

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not everyone has a maxed out night hunter

You mean... this line? ^ Aww and now you're resorting to name calling.. Isn't that cute? You haven't asked any questions you just continue to bash me as if that somehow makes your point any more valid XD whatever you say man. Also I've ran through 3 different mutation 3 NHers on xbox/pc/ps4 so... Your point doesn't stand at all XD

 

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Sure you did, you like to bash just as long as they don't bash back, go run through your hypocrisy, your a troll, my point had to do with humans being overpowered plain and simple, if you don't want to say anything nice and get your feelings hurt don't say anything at all. Bye and begone, this is your chance to prove you're not a troll.

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1 hour ago, Kornchits said:

Sure you did, you like to bash just as long as they don't bash back, go run through your hypocrisy, your a troll, my point had to do with humans being overpowered plain and simple, if you don't want to say anything nice and get your feelings hurt don't say anything at all. Bye and begone, this is your chance to prove you're not a troll.

K :) troll.

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I guess the Troll has to be a Troll who would have thought, Great job from the Troll! Here's a funny part ever since I started calling you a troll you've done nothing but call me a troll, mean while you're posting on my forum!? As such your biased opinions are unwelcome, continue being a troll, seems to be for you.

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You know I am sorry for your experience playing Dying Light. I can understand that the pvp is difficult on the Hunter side. Very difficult in fact. Fighting against one person is a chore, but four is rather nuts. However I do have to highly disagree with you Kornchits on your stance that Humans are OP.

Your argument on Humans shouldn't be Superheroes; I can see where you're coming from, yet the fact that you want something too realistic is a bit much. Video games were made with the most crazy of ideas and this game is no exception. To say that this game needs to be more realistic....well let me paint a picture.

No health bar, and you die in like one or two hits. Every slice, and claw attack severely wounds you, makes you weaker, and deals bleeding. The Grapple Hook functions differently instead of how it works right now. A molotov burns you and a Hunter rather quickly. Toxic waste kills both of ya, and so on and so forth. You get the idea. Again, I get the idea where you come from. Night Hunter is supposed to be an actual terrifying threat, and Survivors should be weaker and fearful of an apex predator. The thing is that...that is already happening. Dying Light is already designed with what it is currently, and if that is something you don't like at all....simply move on to another game. Not trying to sound rude, but if you're not enjoying the experience than this isn't a game for you.

Night Hunter has an instant kill attack, even if its easily countered; and a bunch of utility that makes it terrifying to play against. Instant killing bombers, Tackles off rooftops, UV spit, UV heal, etc. The way you use them is depending on how you play and your current surroundings. An example of this would be if a Survivor is on a rooftop you Ground Pound him to knock him off and proceed to tackle so he can't dodge. Enclosed spaces like hallways, or houses are good for spits. Another thing that has to be kept in mind is that all this takes time and practice. Which is where I have a problem with you.

You have not stated how good you are at the game. Now to some this may not be important, but in the current state of the game, and...games with Asymmetrical multiplayer in general there are those who are willing to go far and beyond to get better even if the game has to no true Esport value. Players from both Survivor and Hunter side are always getting better. So with that said I don't know how you play at all, and neither do the rest of us, nor how things work on consoles. I've had spent 2000+ hours in this game's PVP, and have fought against some of the best Night Hunters this game has to offer. I have learned, improved, and dealt with this games design, and many updates. I say what I have to say with experience as well.

With that said your other issue on Dropkick being OP and you should be able to dodge it sounds rather biased. Dropkick is a move that is hard to land in general with Tendril Sprint being a thing, and if you are running on the ground constantly then yes, you will be dropkicked at some point. However if he misses than that's a huge opening. Also running around and taking the High Ground is a way of dodging it. Jumping, Tendriling around, Tendril Sprint etc. Getting chain Dropkicked however does suck and its unfortunate and the best advice I have for that is Renfur's Instant tackle thing (unless you hate using glitches which is understandable), or just try to recover faster as chaining dropkicks can be difficult from the Survivor's side. A counter to dropkick is literally tackle. An update a while back made it so Tackle overrides dropkick. I don't know the timings, but I have had it happen to me. The whole "Survivors having infinite number of boosters" is an invalid complaint. No seriously, are you going to yell at someone farming legitimately and gaining 99 NH Boosters, which is the legit maximum hold amount, through all his fights? There is no difference between someone who is legit, and someone who duped. The Boosters also have an extremely long cooldown as well so people can't spam them as soon as one ends. Spits and Shields also don't have long cooldowns depending on certain conditions. Conditions being the auto-balance feature, and how many Survivors you are fighting against. Spits also explode much quicker making difficult to hit, but difficult to dodge if used right. If you are fighting in a 4v1 then you have to expect that teamwork will always be a thing, but if that's a problem with you than fight less; its simple even if you have to wait.

With all this said I do think, personally, that your initial complaint is very biased. Yes you are entitled to your opinion and I do respect it, but through what is written and how it is written it just sounds rushed, and with alot of frustration, which I can understand. The March update (I think its March) made so that currently PVP is as balanced as it is. I do agree with Drakorus in that not having a fully skilled NH is crippling yourself, but not having an opinion is what I disagree with. However, both sides comments are very chilish with the whole "troll" chupacabra. I didn't come here to bash you Kornchits, I came to say that although its difficult as a NH, its possible to even win 4v1s. The advice you want is look at videos and guides, even if its not in the same platform. Looking at videos from both perspectives can give you can idea of what Survivors are doing right and wrong; and what Hunters are doing right and wrong. Time and practice is also something that separates the good players from the bad ones, even in 4v1s. I did make a guide which I'll link. Might not be helpful or it will as its old, but I'm willing to help. Now if I am wrong about your skill I would like to see a video or something as I enjoy being proven wrong. Again I say what I say with experience not to insult, troll, or bash ya.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=949125978

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Thanks for the info, i have tried several times to counter drop kick with tackle bad timing or the sec or 2 it's takes to run to tackle, I have more to respond to with your post, but it's about that time to sleep, hopefully what you said and what's on the video correlate with the console versions. Not trying to be mean. Thanks for the info.

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this multiplayer is increadble unbalanced it has been sence day one if they actaully bring the stats to light they would see humans dominate hunters per win to lose ratio. not to mention the 5000 options the humans have to control the map and game as apose to the hunter haveing about 2 options ever 3 spits are useless uv shield is to short. the rate that ur stamina and health recharge is just insanely slow. The hard counters for NH is just stupid every single wiff is a hard counter to NH meaning he either almost dies or does die well through GP for instant WTF CALLS FOR A 3 SECOND RECOVERY TIME. thats insane waaayyyy to long this works for everything tackle pounce gp ever spits that are wiffed instantly makes humans play hunt the hunter and rape you. this been a problem sense day one. It honestly sickning how they believe this is balanced expecailly when theres more then 1 human. so your saying their already 2 hits to our 5 hit kill is not op or that when you face more your health defence and offence stays the same you only get more cooldowns for spits that are worthless. lmao so u can techniqually be insta killed any time u go to be offencive or protect your nest this modes a fin joke its a damn joke. honestly this is btz in nutshell 1v1s hunters have a chance anything past this its like a little chinese kid with slingshot vs a tank. then the developers go hey lets buff the slingshot that make things better =)))))))))). BRO ITS SLINGSHOT NO MATTER HOW U BUFF IT IT WONT WIN!@!!! ps not to mention night hunters can only die 5 times while humans have 10 lives please reduce it to 5 as well.

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