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In what instance does this ever happen in esports? Please provide specific examples.

People were already using the move before he posted this. In his first post he's asking if anyone knows how it's done, he's not saying he knows a secret technique that others don't.

Spamming in the context of this game, or any game for that matter, is relative. Spam itself just means mindless repetition. The repeated use of effective tactics is not spamming. But yes I agree let's not crucify the op for asking a question.

The game has been out for nearly 2 years now, I think it's safe to assume the the meta is solid and there's not a huge influx of new players joining every month. If you're still playing this game in 2016/2017 you most likely already have several to a few hundred hours invested and are well versed with the higher level aspects of the game (from which discussions like these arise). You can think of it like with fighting games. The best time to get into a fighting game is about 3-4 months after release when everyone is fairly new and still figuring out the meta. After a year or so however you need to accept the fact that there are people have everything figured out and work twice as hard to reach the top (or wait until the next version releases). tl;dr everyone is pretty much a veteran by now.

Nice! Are the only rewards new titles and gold weapons?

I'm only quoting your exact words. If you removed that from your post then it would no longer make sense to use as a title in my signature

I don't see how giving cheaters what they want would deter them from...cheating. Sounds counter intuitive to me. I imagine a VAC/anti-cheat system that actually punished players for cheating and didn't just put you in a different pool of players would have made a big impact. Also being a stand alone mode would have helped greatly but that's something that would have needed to be addressed from the start. A lot of the problems people have is that one party controls all the match parameters. There's no player control when you have to play according to someone else's preferred tastes.

This is what he's talking about. It's the last known change to ground pound that I can think of. http://forum.techland.pl/topic/11511-be-the-zombie-mode-patch-notes/#entry39904

It's not a console war (PC is console?), it's fact. I'm stating the obvious advantages keyboard and mouse have over pads in FPS and why you're experiencing slower turn speed. Source: I have both PC and PS4.

That's just PC in general, everything is faster. That's why people usually say keyboard and mouse is superior to pads. You have more speed and precision because of the high dpi on a mouse versus analog stick. You will never achieve that speed on console.

This is exactly it. I've been saying this since day one. Every problem this mode has ever had would be fixed if this was separate from the single player campaign.

I'm not saying duping just started I'm saying it's been a continual problem along with balance issues that has dwindled the hunter player base down to what we have currently today. It's too late to expect survivors to play without duped inventories because they've been playing that way for so long with little penalty. It's become the norm when it wasn't supposed to be and there have been several balance changes in direct response to duped inventories which makes things harder for both new and legitimate players. If players are having legitimate issues of the hunter being too OP then taking duped inventories into a PvP setting was not the way to fix those issues (neither does it justify duping). By using duped inventories the focus of balance changes became centered on curbing the use of such tactics instead of focusing on the real issues such as what makes the hunter so op and what needs to be turned down to make him more manageable. The argument that duping is supporting this mode is an excuse used by players who want an out from every situation all the time (infinite healing, unlimited flare defense, continuous stat buffs, infinite horde negation). Playing the mode as intended seems like a totally different game because no one has been playing it right from the beginning and hunter players have mainly been the ones to suffer.

This goes both ways. If survivors want to continue bringing duped items into a pvp setting then hunters will get tired of playing. No hunters = no invasions. You need not look any further than this forum to see the history of frustrated hunter players who have quit the game for this reason and more.

> implies previous post was a joke/not serious > says there's relevant information in said joke So are you admitting to providing false information yet again? Pete just said they don't want people to feel as if duping is a necessary part of BtZ and yet again you accuse devs of duping themselves without any credible source of information. It's like you hold a grudge against them for previous patches or something.

No one cares about false/negative rumors that aren't from a credible source. This contributes nothing to the discussion and only further misconstrues the topic at hand.